Posts by William Penwell

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Apostasy Trial - Part 2 - Satan is Using Google

by berrygerry in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=373zbncuuoq

William Penwell

Yeah here we go they got him when he admitted that he didn't believe that Satan was behind everything that is bad. Typical kangaroo court. The elders are only there to get enough s*it so they can DF him. I do not recognize their authority, they can do what ever they like.

Oh yeah I want to add that when he said he read the bible from cover to cover, well this is a no no. I recall when I tried to just read to bible on my own, my ex told me that i wasn't supposed to read it on my own without help from WT study aids/publications.

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1975 failed prediction?

by Garrett in

jw
friends

heyo,.

your favorite garrett here.

so, i'm about to have an elder tell me allll about the failed 1975 doctrine.

William Penwell

Maybe not but the effect it had on my parents that although the belief had changed they still firmly believed that the end would come by the autumn of 1975. My father had a good job and was reasonably intelligent and had served as a servant and elder conducting the Watchtower study with pioneer children. In the year that this Watchtower change came about he made a decision to move and simplify his life somewhat which would enable him and us to do more in the 'truth' which we did. We didn't even have a television for some years. However if he had retained the house he sold then his estate would have been worth at least 4 times what it was when he died. His children lost out in a financial way but not just us as my children recently pointed out how it has and will effect them. This doesn't include the fact that I turned down a pension policy many years ago because I wouldn't be needing one due to the belief in the generation that will not pass away. I finished my education early due to the 1975 so as to pioneer. Not for my own personal gain. But I have also had to argue that it was due to the teachings of the Watchtower and not something I or my parents read into it that I made the decisions in my life. When I was leaving the JW and the elders came they clearly stated it was nothing to do with the Watchtower. Admittedly I could be wrong on some things.

How can the WT claim it was just a few zealous ones that miss read that they were saying when in fact you can read thousands of stories like this that are very similar. My family story is much the same. My father sold the family house in 1974 because he was told to simplify his life. I think he regretted that decision for the rest of his life as at the time he was still a middle aged working man with a family and at least another ten years of working. He sold the house before the big real estate boom and lost out on thousands of dollars that could have went toward his retirement. So when some dub comes on here trying to minimize the WT culpability in all of this, they are full of it. It just makes me mad when someone tries to justify that cults action.

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1975 failed prediction?

by Garrett in

jw
friends

heyo,.

your favorite garrett here.

so, i'm about to have an elder tell me allll about the failed 1975 doctrine.

William Penwell

That 1976 Watchtower article that chastised those who had sold up their homes and pioneered pre-1975 might have achieved some good had it said the same thing several years beforehand.

This is a big reason why my father sold the family home in 1974. Well the joke is on the borg as he did not have as much money to leave them when he passed away.

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Videolink speech by a HQ member this Saturday

by Powermetal4ever in

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friends

so this saturday we are going to have some kind of videolink speech, by a james mantz from headquarters apparantly.

how very exciting... or not.

thats what my mum said anyway, and i just thought like " yeah right" i can t remember we have ever had it before, is it a new take?

William Penwell

Do they still tell the R&F that this part is very important and not to miss it?

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Regional Convention 2015 - Program

by Designer Stubble in

friday morning9:20 music9:30 song no.

5 and prayer9:40 chairmans address: imitate jesuswhy and how?10:20 symposium: lessons from jesus word pictures observe the birds and the lilies have salt in yourselves build your house on the rock11:10 song no.

120 and announcements11:20 follow jesus patternkeep on asking, seeking, and knocking!11:45 keynote address: concealed in him are all the treasures of wisdom12:15 song no.

William Penwell

at about this one,

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1975 failed prediction?

by Garrett in

jw
friends

heyo,.

your favorite garrett here.

so, i'm about to have an elder tell me allll about the failed 1975 doctrine.

William Penwell

I am wondering is SimonSays is a lawyer being paid by the WT to do damage control?

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1975 failed prediction?

by Garrett in

jw
friends

heyo,.

your favorite garrett here.

so, i'm about to have an elder tell me allll about the failed 1975 doctrine.

William Penwell

@SimonSays

Unless you live through it you can't understand what the R&F members went through at that time.

The GB knew exactly what they were doing as they deceptively worded this Awake article but the way they worded that the message they wanted to convey to the R&F members what they wanted them to hear. They first pose the question to the reader "Does this mean that the above evidence positively points to 1975 as the time for the complete end of the system of things?" Then the last sentence of the paragraph says, "If the 1970's should see intervention by Jehovah God to bring an end to a corrupt world drifting toward ultimate disintegration, that surely not surprise us."

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1975 failed prediction?

by Garrett in

jw
friends

heyo,.

your favorite garrett here.

so, i'm about to have an elder tell me allll about the failed 1975 doctrine.

William Penwell

The WT can deny it all they want. I was there I I witness it first hand. It was not just the R&F dub that believe this, it was pushed by the society at the time. One quote from many is the Oct 8th 1968 Awake,

What do they mean when they say in 1968, "It means that only a few years, at most, remain before the corrupt system of things dominating the earth is destroyed by God."?

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Regional Convention 2015 - Program

by Designer Stubble in

friday morning9:20 music9:30 song no.

5 and prayer9:40 chairmans address: imitate jesuswhy and how?10:20 symposium: lessons from jesus word pictures observe the birds and the lilies have salt in yourselves build your house on the rock11:10 song no.

120 and announcements11:20 follow jesus patternkeep on asking, seeking, and knocking!11:45 keynote address: concealed in him are all the treasures of wisdom12:15 song no.

William Penwell

I have my lapel card ready to go,

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Regional Convention 2015 - Program

by Designer Stubble in

friday morning9:20 music9:30 song no.

5 and prayer9:40 chairmans address: imitate jesuswhy and how?10:20 symposium: lessons from jesus word pictures observe the birds and the lilies have salt in yourselves build your house on the rock11:10 song no.

120 and announcements11:20 follow jesus patternkeep on asking, seeking, and knocking!11:45 keynote address: concealed in him are all the treasures of wisdom12:15 song no.

William Penwell

Jesus - Jehovah, so they replace one fairy tail with another fairy tail.

Seems like a big snooze fest to me.This would be my line up for Friday morning.

Friday Morning,

9:40 - Listen to a boring talk about Jesus.

10:00 - Doze off to sleep out of boredom.

12:00 - Wake up in time to hear the finale comments, song and prayer

12:15 - Lunch time and get ready for the next set of boring talks.